Pilots, Alcohol, Hollywood and Farce

October 29, 2014

THE OTHER NIGHT I went and re-watched the Denzel Washington movie,”Flight,” thinking that maybe it wouldn’t bother me as much as it did the first time I saw it.

A nice idea, but it was even more aggravating the second time around. I’m not sure who gets the bigger screw-job here: viewers, who are being lied to, but who may or may not care; airline pilots, whose profession is unrealistically portrayed; or nervous flyers, whose fears this movie will only compound.

First things first: this isn’t a movie review. I’ll leave that to the professional critics. I’m not Anthony Lane, and any attempts I make at dissecting “Flight” on its deeper cinematic merits, if there are any, are bound to fall short. I’m more than happy, however, to judge the film on its technical aspects: its cockpit scenes and its portrayal of airline pilots. And what I saw gets a firm thumbs-down.

I went into the theater with an open mind. Really, I did. I long ago accepted that when it comes to planes and pilots, Hollywood never gets it right, and I was not expecting anything different this time. There’s a point, however, where you just can’t let things go. There is nothing funny about “Flight”, but should you hear howls of laughter coming from the back of the theater, chances are there’s a pilot in the audience. Laughter, if not tears, is the only fair response to much of what the movie shows.

Above all else there’s the matter of Denzel Washington’s character, “Whip” Whitaker. Whip is a hotshot, sauced-up captain whose substance-abuse habit crash-lands him, quite literally, into a whole heap of trouble. Our anti-Sully is a guy who flies on the heels of a coke binge and pours his own cocktails in the galley. Whip is a cartoon, but the problem is that too many people watching this movie will take him seriously. The idea that such a reckless pilot might actually exist out there is hardwired into the imagination of the traveling public and unfortunately reinforced by rare but high-profile reports of commercial pilots who’ve been caught while under the influence.

Any number of pilots have indeed battled substance-abuse problems — as have professionals in every line of work — and over the years a much smaller number have been arrested after failing a Breathalyzer or blood-alcohol test. Incidents like these have nurtured a certain apocryphal stereotype: the pilot as hard-drinking renegade, with crow’s-feet flanking his eyes and a whisky-tempered drawl, a flask tucked into his luggage. When the image is so quick to form, it’s tempting to jump to conclusions: for every pilot who’s caught, there must be a dozen others out there getting away with it. Right?

Well, quite frankly, no. Intoxication isn’t something pilots play fast and loose with. Why would we, with our careers on the line? Violators are subject to immediate revocation of their pilot certificates, not to mention potential prison time. I will remind you that pilots are subject to random drug and alcohol testing, and I should also note that simply because a pilot is battling a substance-abuse problem, that does not mean he is flying while drunk or high. And he certainly isn’t mixing drinks in the galley. That is a huge and critical distinction. Passengers worry about all sorts of things, rational and otherwise, but trust me on this one: there’s no Whip Whitaker in the cockpit.

Why not? The rest of us wouldn’t tolerate such a dangerous colleague in our midst, for one thing. Neither would any pilot take the skies with somebody he or she knew to be under the influence. At one point, Whitaker’s copilot admits from his post-crash hospital bed to having known that his captain was drunk and high even before they’d taken off. Where’s a bucket of tomatoes when you need one?

In other words, a real-life Whitaker wouldn’t survive two minutes at an airline, and all commercial pilots — including, if not especially, those who’ve dealt with drug or alcohol addiction — should feel slandered by his ugly caricature.

The Federal Aviation Administration blood-alcohol limit for airline pilots is 0.04 percent, and we are banned from consuming alcohol within eight hours of reporting for duty. We must also comply with our employers’ in-house policies, which are usually stricter. Drug and alcohol tests are unannounced and common. Air carriers and unions like the Air Line Pilots Association have been very successful with proactive counseling programs that encourage pilots to seek treatment.

Not long ago, I flew with a colleague who participated in the HIMS program, an intervention and treatment system put together several years ago by ALPA and the FAA. HIMS has treated more than 4,000 pilots, with only 10 percent to 12 percent of participants suffering relapse. It has kept alcohol out of the cockpit and has helped prevent the issue from being driven underground, where it’s more likely to be a safety problem. I asked that colleague if, prior to going into HIMS, he’d ever knowingly flown under the influence. His answer was a firm and very believable no.



But back to the movie…

The workplace dynamic between Whip Whitaker and his copilot, Ken Evans (Brian Geraghty), is another problem. In the cockpit, Whitaker is flip, arrogant, and condescending; Evans is meek and at times frightened and clueless. This is not how actual pilots behave and interact. Further, such a botched depiction only reinforces one of flying’s most irritating myths: the idea of the copilot as a sort of apprentice pilot who is on hand merely to help out and assist the captain.

Copilots are not trainees. I ought to know: I am one. We perform just as many takeoffs and landings as captains do, and we are fully certified to operate the aircraft in all phases of flight. In fact, due to the peculiarities of the seniority bidding that determines almost everything in a pilot’s professional life, it’s not terribly uncommon for the copilot to be older and more experienced than the captain sitting next to him.

The cockpit scenes otherwise range from borderline realistic to preposterous. The checklists, the procedural callouts, the chatter with air-traffic control, etc., are occasionally rendered correctly, if a bit over the top. But mostly they’re peculiar, and at times they are outright silly.

The early-on segment where Whitaker and Evans are battling through a storm is particularly egregious. I cannot begin to describe how wrong it is, from the absurd idea that you would actually increase to maximum flying speed to race between storm cells to Whitaker’s impetuous descent, which for some inexplicable reason he believes will help lead them safely through the weather — all without permission from air-traffic control. Are you kidding?

Minutes later we see the jet, its pitch controls jammed, nosediving unstoppably toward the ground. Whip saves the day by turning the plane upside down, then rolling it right side up again in time for a semi-successful crash landing in a field. The aerobatic magic here is something that escapes me, but what do I know? I’m just an airline pilot. The sequence is based loosely on the crash of Alaska Airlines flight 261 in January, 2000, when a jammed stabilizer jackscrew forced the McDonnell Douglas MD-83 into an unrecoverable dive. (Whitaker’s jet is a fictionalized version of the same plane, with some digitalized winglets attached.) The crew of Alaska 261 briefly attempted to regain control by flying inverted. Whatever aerobatic and aerodynamic possibilities exist here aren’t anything I can vouch for. If they do exist, surely “Flight” has overextended them.

I can let that one go, but I loved it when Whitaker, seconds away from impact, actually radios air-traffic control with the news: “We are in a dive!”

Thanks, Whip. I can only imagine a perplexed controller staring haplessly into a radar screen, not really sure what to say or do, wondering if perhaps he ought to have called in sick that day. In the real world, pilots in the throes of such an emergency wouldn’t be all that worried about what ATC has to say, and such a radio call would be about the last thing on their minds. For most of the film I was too mortified to actually laugh out loud, but that one got a cackle from me.

Presumably, the filmmakers worked with one or more consultants, who must have at least attempted to encourage accuracy. Wikipedia tells us that the late Lyle Shelton, a former stunt pilot, worked as a technical adviser. Perhaps Shelton could have told us more about that upside-down business, but he wasn’t an airline pilot, and it’s the cockpit details — the dramatization of airline SOP — where things fall short. I almost hate to say it, but even Airport ’75 — one of the quintessential air-disaster movies, in which Charlton Heston is helicoptered through a hole in a crippled 747 — did it better.

I’ll be told, perhaps, that I need to relax, and that the movie ought be judged beyond its technical shortcomings. Normally I would agree, and for the average lay viewer it will hardly matter at all. I’m happy to allow a little artistic license. We should expect it, and some light fudging of the facts can be necessary, to a degree, for a film like this to work. Honestly, I’m not that much of a fussbudget. The trouble with “Flight” is that the filmmakers seem to have hardly tried.

And why not? Would it really have been that difficult? Would it really have diminished the picture’s storyline or its gravity? I think not.

As for real-life substance-abuse problems, I prefer the tale of the former Northwest captain Lyle Prouse.

Prouse, together with the other two pilots in his crew, was arrested one morning in Minnesota in 1990. All three had spent the previous evening’s layover at a bar in Fargo, North Dakota, downing as many as nineteen rum and Cokes. Tests showed their blood-alcohol levels far beyond the legal limit.

An alcoholic whose parents had died of the disease, Prouse became a poster pilot for punishment and redemption. He was sentenced to 16 months in federal prison. Then, in a remarkable and improbable sequence of events, he was able to return to the cockpit on his 60th birthday and retire as a 747 captain.

Once out of jail, Prouse was forced to requalify for every one of his FAA licenses and ratings. Broke, he relied on a friend to lend him stick time in a single-engine trainer. Northwest’s then-CEO, John Dasburg, who himself had grown up in an alcoholic family, took a personal interest in Prouse’s struggle and lobbied publicly for his return.

You’ll see Prouse in interviews from time to time, and inevitably you’ll be struck by how forthrightly he takes responsibility, without resorting to the sobby self-flagellation of most public apologies. Always one is left, unexpectedly, to conclude that this convicted felon deserved his second chance.


This article ran originally in The Daily Beast.


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  1. Wilbor Gavin says:

    It’s a moo-vee; it’s not real. It’s entertainment (fiction) at the expense of reality (fact). Whoever heard of such a thing? I can watch a Nat Geo documentary for free about programs in place for airline pilots with substance abuse problems, but I wouldn’t because it doesn’t interest me. I prefer this version because it’s exciting, which makes for good entertainment. It’s not an indictment of pilots. Anyone with 1/2 a brain has to know there are safeguards in place to keep substance abusers far away from the cockpit, but who pays to go see the truth?

  2. Jason Bell says:

    “Flight” is about alcoholism and substance abuse in general and the human trial of overcoming. You walked into the theatre and viewed the movie from a professional airline pilot’s biased perspective, overlooking that the jet airliner sequence is just a tiny metaphorical plot element of the film. The main character flips the plane inverted. Their world has become upside down from substance abuse. Then flips it back over and crashes into reality at major physical and mental cost. The rest of movie is about the main character coming to grips with, admitting they have a problem, and dealing with.

    Most know Hollywood exaggerates and fictionalizes everything.

  3. Panlo says:

    This is where you glorified bus drivers get it wrong. It’s a movie about addiction. The plane is a
    metaphor for an out of control life. I’m sure you watch Star Wars and think it’s about space travel and alien life forms. Get over yourself!!! Any moron with half a brain and 2 hours in a 200 level English Lit class can see that the story is not about rolling a commercial jet. Go find Han Solo and discuss astro physics.

    • Patrick says:

      Yes, we understand the metaphor. But that’s not an excuse for completely misrepresenting what it’s like to be a pilot, and what happens in a cockpit. I’m sorry, but those things aren’t just incidental to the story. The rolling maneuver is only a small part of it. I understand artistic license, and the weird aerobatics wouldn’t have bothered me a bit had they made an effort to get the other stuff right.

  4. Infrequent Flyer says:

    I’m curious about the authenticity (or lack there of) of the Liam Neeson movie, The Grey (2011).

  5. Keelan says:

    No offence, but this is a hollywood movie, not a documentary on the dynamics of a cockpit crew. You need to take the film as what it is and entertaining STORY and nothing more.

    I quite like the film.

  6. Paul K says:

    Excellent post – but the problem is Hollywood is Hollywood… My wife Geneticist bursts out laughing at the spinning helix things that almost every movie/TV series has when they show DNA analysis, the super uber cool labs with mood lighting (CSI is the worst offender) and the almost instantaneous results w/o any analysis time…

    Me I’m in IT how come everyone always has connectivity? Why can hackers type faster than professionals in the steno pool back in the day – and why are they wasting time doing that anyway. There is already a root kit out their for you and you need to be focused on dumpster diving and social engineering to get on sight or infect a product or some such.

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  8. Radi says:

    Hello all! Absolutely love your website as someone with a passion in aviation, nice work! First time commenting, as I approach this post from a slightly different viewpoint. I mention my passion in aviation, I’m also a “theatre person,” and as many have already pointed out, I realise why, at the very least for the “dramatic effect” many things have to be overemphasized so that people actually find the film/TV show/play interesting. However, what really gets on my nerves is documentaries. Although I realise most people watching shows like “Air Crash Investigation” just happen to tune into Nat Geo or Discovery at that time and find it interesting, so some theatrical aspects have to be added in, for a documentary, I don’t think that is an excuse. You don’t see facts changed in WWII or Vietnam War movies just to make it more interesing or accessible: if you don’t get the references or find it boring, it’s your own problem. So why should air accident documentaries get it so wrong? While I can forgive the interiors used (except when they use a twin-aisle interior for a 737…….), the cockpit “simulators” they use are just pathetic. I could screencast a crash in FSX and it would be more realistic. As I’m not a professional, I’m sure there are things I’m missing out on here, but honestly, when I see the mockups they use, it just gets on my nerves too much to overlook, I absolutely agree with you. I also don’t live in an English-speaking country (though many speak it), so shows are translated. The translation of something like “flaps 2” to “spoilers armed” makes me laugh every time. Completely agree with what you are saying here, even as an enthusiast this annoys me to no end, I can imagine as a professional!

  9. Kyle says:

    Interesting article… if you are so ignorant as to not remember this was a Hollywood production. In fact, it won much praise for its success. I can only surmise that the writer of this article is a miserable co-pilot who feels he doesn’t get as much reward as he deserves. Unfortunately, it’s true, because Denzel Washington could fly an RC airplane and get more credit than this guy. I wouldn’t be surprised if he cuts himself in the galley before every flight because he hates his life so much.

  10. nicholas Robinson says:

    I was appalled that a a supposed rated private pilot (as I understand it) — Robert Zemeckis, who did such wonders with Back to the Future, would pen a drivel-filled fantasy such as this.

    I just have no words about where his feverish imagination came from. If, say, this had been a drama about a taxi driver succumbing to the pleasures of the grape — and the leaves of the coca plant — it would have been no less of a cartoon.

    Zemeckis does a huge, unextinguishable whack job on the thousands of men and women who get into planes every single day and fly hundreds of thousands — perhaps millions of miles — without so much as a grin and a “thank you” to the grumpy passengers as they exit their planes.

    In fact, being an airline brat, I have flown so many passenger miles that I cannot begin to estimate or even count them — as a conservative guess, shall we just hazard at least — AT LEAST 2,000 miles per year for over 50 years, and in some years, 24,000 miles in a single year.

    I have only encountered anything worthy of being deemed an “incident.” once, when my crew aborted during the takeoff roll (video at http://tinyurl.com/mhl8uny)

    The captain, standing at the door of the cockpit as we debarked the airplane, smiled serenely when I asked him if he “needed my footage” in order to help him somehow in any investigation that might follow the incident (you can tell how freaked out I was). He laughed and said “No, you keep it” in such a jocular manner that he might as well have just returned from a trip to Costco.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that in my over-fifty years of being on commercial aircraft that the flight-deck crew have ever been anything other than consummate professionals — and I have no doubts whatsoever that I have been on many a flight in which an onboard crisis occurred but was taken care of and masked from the people in the back because of the professionalism of the pilots in the pointy end.

    This movie, even from a non-pilot or professional’s standpoint, was a disgrace to the film industry, a ludicrous insult to the the people making sure we get from A to B every single day, and I would go far further than Patrick in suggesting that Zemeckis be relieved of his license to make films, since it’s quite obvious to me that he was heavily under several influences when he wrote this crap.

  11. Alex says:

    Patrick, just out of curiosity, what movie or movies, not including documentaries, would you say offer the most accurate portrayal of real-world commercial aviation?

    To someone with a casual aviation interest like myself, I would venture to guess that United 93 (not to be confused with Flight 93) would be relatively high on the list. How would you say that movie measures up?

    • Patrick says:

      Indeed, I liked “United 93” quite a bit and once reviewed it for Salon:


      I just read Tom McMillan’s excellent book on flight 93. I had a few things wrong. It seems pretty clear from the CVR tapes, for instance, that the passengers did force their way into the cockpit, and were wrestling for control, just before the plane’s fatal plunge.

    • Rick says:

      I have some pilot friends who said, surprisingly, the radio patter, approach, and a bunch of other details in Avatar, of all things, was pitch perfect.

  12. Don Beyer says:

    I work for a railroad. Just like this movie, Unstoppable was beyond absurd. Nothing, absolutely nothing in that movie was anything close to reality about how trains and railroads operate. The list is so long it would take me as long as the movie to explain what is wrong. Denzil Washington was in this one, too. Ironically, I watched the movie on a flight to Europe.

  13. susan says:

    good piece. I think a good corollary is the TV series “House”–about a Vicodin-addicted doctor who ends up being the hero in every episode, figuring out what strange and obscure ailment has felled this week’s victim. AS IF. I work in a medium sized city hospital ER. I can assure you that NO hospital would allow someone with this issue to touch a patient. seriously.

    • Mark says:

      With regards to “House” I could never stop thinking about the massive medical bills that House and his colleagues must have racked up for each of their patients. They’re alive, but utterly broke !

      • JamesP says:

        Funny that “House, MD” came to my mind as well. Mainly because the group of physicians does everything: surgery, lab work, MRI, forensic searches, clinic duty… Riiight. I imagine physicians must have a good laugh watching pretty much any medical drama. Same with lawyers.

        I’m a musician, and although musicians are often portrayed as booze-swilling and substance-smoking heathens (which isn’t terribly inaccurate, really), I always get a good laugh watching the “musicians” in films “play” their instruments. Unless they got an actual band to act the scene, it’s just so wrong as to be distracting.

        In this case, I think Patrick has a point in being upset rather than amused – the portrayal of not only a pilot (the First Officer) but the cabin crew letting a drunk/high pilot fly a plane is a bad insult to the professionalism of both groups.

        And, I’m no pilot (not even a video game one) but I also groaned when Whip announced to ATC that “We are in a dive!” What was ATC gonna say? “Rrroger, cleared to flight level, uh, zero.” Yeesh.

  14. JohnLM says:

    I’ll admit the first time around watching Flight the opening scene did keep me entertained with its absurd over-the-topness, but the entertainment stopped as soon as the plane came to rest. What followed was a cacophony of all the worst movie cliches rolled into one film. Troubled anti-hero gets rescued by drug-addled cutie while he kicks and screams the whole way. I can only imagine the writer sitting in front of his computer when all of a sudden it hits him! “The most epic plane crash sequence with a drunk pilot who saves the day! And then….and then….hmmmm…let’s see…oh and he has a funny friend…like the Dude….only more hardcore…oh man wouldn’t it be cool if we got Walter to play the Dude character?! Then we’ll put In a Manic Pixie Dream Girl..duh. Ok there’s the first three pages.. Now I just need to fill it out!”

    I’m perfectly fine with over the top stupidity in film but if it starts out as Michael Bay I want it to finish like Michael Bay, rather then start dumb and end Robert Zemeckis folksy. There isn’t a profession on earth that escapes Hollywoods sticky grasp so I don’t feel like pilots need to be given special deference when it comes to realistic writing. If that were the case then cops would have the biggest axe to grind. Still after repeated watching that scene starts to fall apart only because it can no longer be viewed in it’s own absurd context; you know the rest of the sap barrel is tumbling down after it.

    If we are talking about plane crashes done right I believe The Grey probably takes the prize. The cause is ambiguous but seems to be some sort of electrical failure (although I don’t know why that would lead to the plane breaking open) and the director crafts the setup perfectly. When the crash plays out it starts slow and then in an instant the plane blows out with a Gaussian blurred view of the ground below and staccato bursts of consciousness before blackout. I don’t know if that’s what it’s really like but it seems plausible.

  15. Lewis Van Atta says:

    I was trained as an electrical engineer (I do software engineering nowdays), and did some work on military aircraft and the Gulfstream 5 bizjet (Bruce Wayne’s jet in Batman Begins!). One that that ALWAYS bugs me is that hardly anyone in Hollyweird gets engineering or technical items correct in a typical movie…and it would not take much effort to do their homework and get it right.

    The one notable exception I can think of is Stanley Kubrick and 2001: A Space Odyssey. In the late 60s he showed spacecraft with glass cockpits. Of course, Kubrick was famous for being meticulously detailed like this in his movies.

    • Mark R. says:

      Nonsense like this is why I stopped watching most movies a quarter century ago.

      That said, I do have two good recommendations about the intersection of airplanes and drugs.

      Currently in theaters is “Kill the Messenger,” about reporter Gary Webb who made the career-ending mistake of writing about officially tolerated drug running that funded the “Contras” attacking Nicaragua during the Reagan-Bush administration. The drugs arrived in this country via airplane, mostly.

      An older film is “Air America,” the best movie Mel Gibson ever made. It’s a slightly fictionalized telling of the very real story of Air America, a CIA “proprietary” airline in Laos in the 1960s that ran opium. The movie isn’t a substitute for reading actual books but it’s astounding that the essence of the film was correct.

      And why are we in Afghanistan?

    • Mark R. says:

      Also re: Kubrick – Doctor Strangelove apparently had a very realistic interior of a B-52.
      When Ronnie Raygun had his best acting role (President) he asked his aides to see the “War Room” that Kubrick portrayed in “Strangelove.” He was disappointed it was only a movie set, not reality.

  16. Scott Hawthorn says:

    I finally saw this movie. I’m not a pilot but I know a few things. I almost hit ‘stop’ right when they were climbing out, the airspeed indicator read something like 360 KNOTS, fer crissakes, and the first officer was screaming, “OVERSPEED!” Hee hee, possibly the most fictional depiction ever! Whatever happened to expert consultants on movies?

  17. Brett says:

    A quick google search tells you that pilots in the USA have regular random drug tests. A pilot like the one in Flight would find it hard to exist under such a testing regime.

    This is just another Hollywood movie where the movie machine insults the intelligence of the viewer. Pathetic

  18. Elizabeth Matheson says:

    Realistic or not, this is a hard film to watch and not because of the subject matter. It’s an exercise in futility, especially because we all know how it’s going to end up. After an interesting, if not plausible beginning, the story slows to a crawl with scene after scene of pointless exposition, trying to paint Whip as a well-meaning guy who “just has a problem.” His problem IS the problem, giving audiences no one to root for or even in any way identify with. It feels like an after-school special, complete with “the more you know” lessons learned just in case it wasn’t obvious “that alcohol can be bad” after 138 minutes.

  19. Ross Aimer says:

    I went to see “Flight” all prepared to be disappointed. The flying parts were awful as I expected but I thought Denzel’s acting and the story of drug and alcohol addiction was great.
    I’ve done a few aviation movies as a T/A (Technical Assistant) to the Director. They paid me good money but rarely listened to my critique.
    Average folks have no idea about intricacies of aviation. Movie makers want to make things exciting and sell their movies. They really don’t care if you and I and a few pilots in the theater get upset when we see something that is technically impossible or totally unrealistic.
    The funny thing is that the average movie goer is now convinced we do our best flying after a night of wild sex, drugs and alcohol binging. I just wished some of that were true! 🙂

  20. Tom says:

    As a former pilot (minimal hours) I find it interesting to read these comments…… and Patrick’s critique…… and agree with it all. Only question for Patrick and other airline guys….. how do you go from a stuck elevator that has you in a dive and then invert the plane and fly level?? These big planes don’t fly very well inverted with or without jammed controls. That part of the story is beyond a stretch….. did I miss something at the NTSB hearing at the end of the movie?

  21. flymike says:

    Denzel is going for the hat trick: train wreck engineer movie first, then drunken airplane pilot, then . . . ship captain who puts his huge new cruise ship on the rocks? Oh wait, that’s already been done in real life. Still, someone will make a movie about it.

    • Chuck W says:

      The railroading in Unbearable err Unstoppable were almost as believable as the aviation in Flight. Denzel has been in some really good movies (the Equalizer is very good) but these two are definitely not.

  22. Jeff Latten says:

    It appears that once again, the movie makers have assumed that the movie-going public are a bunch of morons and they might have a point there. To me, a good story is a good story and doesn’t need ridiculous violations of reality to make it gripping. By the same logic, putting in such absurd details just points to the lack of a good story. Example of a great movie with a story with few stretches: “A Simple Plan” with Bill Paxton. So I guess the movie moguls just figure that Denzel is enough and the story can be a implausible as they can make it. And I have to agree with your assessment that this will probably scare the snot out of many travelers.

  23. Stacy says:

    If Hollywood made movies that were realistic, nobody would ever go. One of the American embassy staff in Teheran who escaped to the Canadian embassy went to see the movie “Argo” and said it wasn’t anything like real-life (they got out without a hitch), but the movie was very suspenseful and exciting: “I was on the edge of my seat wondering if we made it out.” I’m a lawyer and if they made a movie that depicted an actual trial, not a soul would make it out awake.

    • PolishKnight says:

      Stacy, it’s been a long time since you wrote that comment but I have to add this one. I think Argo could have been more interesting if they had stuck to the actual story and included how they forged the ID’s, dealt with the mistakes, etc. The history channel made a far more interesting documentary of Argo than Argo the movie itself.

      About a good courtroom drama. They ought to get my friend who was a lawyer to write one for them about the cases he handled. When he was drinking and telling me the stories, I laughed my head off.

      One is where a woman who was a big time Mexican drug dealer got busted with all of her stuff on the bed: The scales, the coke, everything. The lawyer decided to go with the defense (story) that she had caught her son (now fled to Mexico) dealing drugs and wanted to confront him by putting all the stuff on the bed and telling him off and that’s when the police busted in.

      Then the lawyer actually shed a tear and said she took a risk for her son.

      The jury let her off and she fled to Mexico before the DA could file more charges.

      Hmmm, I have another fun case I would share now but I think I’ll write it up and pitch it to Hollywood. It’s just too funny.

  24. Tod says:

    I can handle movies getting it wrong with flying but a lot of so called documentaries are just as bad if not worse.

  25. Beauzeaux says:

    I used to work in the New York City subways and every movie that touches on the trains gets it wrong, wrong, wrong. (The original “Taking of Pelham 1-2-3” actually got a few things right — making it the exception that proves the rule.)

    I’m convinced that movies never get anyone’s job right. Does anyone believe that cops/lawyers/doctors/any other profession act like they do in movies? In IT now and Roger is right. Computers in the movies are AMAZING! If only real computers were that easy and fast!

  26. Roger says:

    I work in IT and what you see related to that is far more of a stretch. I’m pretty sure people in almost any professional field will make the same observation.

    My work, as I suspect most of yours, is actually very long periods of quiet professionalism. It is the complete opposite of entertainment. Doing the various things shown are usually completely impossible, certainly impractical, and if done would take months or years.

    But of course people want to be entertained, they want to be frightened, they want frequent progress to be made, they want the complete opposite of how things actually are. And the entertainment industry delivers!

    But Pushing Tin was a documentary right 🙂

  27. Steve Van Swearingen says:

    Hey! Jimmy Stewart starting up the R2800 using the Coffman starter got it right in the original Flight of teh Phoenix