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		By: PSimpson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just got back from a 2 night stay at the TWA hotel. We had to go to JFK to do our Global Entry interviews (no appointments available at Logan) so we figured we&#039;d stay at the hotel. 

Tl;dr - it&#039;s quite pricey ($250/night), the rooms are small but comfortable, and the food, though pricey and somewhat skimpy in quantity, is good. The 60s music is omnipresent and a bit too loud. There&#039;s a gift shop.

The Saarinen Flight Center is breathtaking. It was worth saving. And the restoration was done well. As you walk through it, there are all sorts of little details that make you smile or think. Original drawings, a mockup of Saarinen&#039;s office, some neat old cars. They did a nice job, and they do seem to be working hard to keep the place up. I also appreciated the trust shown by not putting everything behind plexiglass, which seems to help make a more intimate connection between the guest and the artifacts (though they are glued down).

The rooms are on the cozy side, but comfortable, the showers are hot and the beds are soft. Think &quot;dorm room&quot;. The soundproofing is excellent, as far as external noiss goes, but room to room could have used a bit more insulation. 

The rooftop pool, on a sunny, breezy, 65 degree March day, was comfortaby warm, as long as you didn&#039;t expose too much flesh. We stayed in for an hour, watching the takeoffs and landings over the infinity edge. Thick terrycloth robes are availble at the front desk.

And the flip message boards are mesmerising.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got back from a 2 night stay at the TWA hotel. We had to go to JFK to do our Global Entry interviews (no appointments available at Logan) so we figured we&#8217;d stay at the hotel. </p>
<p>Tl;dr &#8211; it&#8217;s quite pricey ($250/night), the rooms are small but comfortable, and the food, though pricey and somewhat skimpy in quantity, is good. The 60s music is omnipresent and a bit too loud. There&#8217;s a gift shop.</p>
<p>The Saarinen Flight Center is breathtaking. It was worth saving. And the restoration was done well. As you walk through it, there are all sorts of little details that make you smile or think. Original drawings, a mockup of Saarinen&#8217;s office, some neat old cars. They did a nice job, and they do seem to be working hard to keep the place up. I also appreciated the trust shown by not putting everything behind plexiglass, which seems to help make a more intimate connection between the guest and the artifacts (though they are glued down).</p>
<p>The rooms are on the cozy side, but comfortable, the showers are hot and the beds are soft. Think &#8220;dorm room&#8221;. The soundproofing is excellent, as far as external noiss goes, but room to room could have used a bit more insulation. </p>
<p>The rooftop pool, on a sunny, breezy, 65 degree March day, was comfortaby warm, as long as you didn&#8217;t expose too much flesh. We stayed in for an hour, watching the takeoffs and landings over the infinity edge. Thick terrycloth robes are availble at the front desk.</p>
<p>And the flip message boards are mesmerising.</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2021 02:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patrick,

I couldn’t agree more about the rooms. By the way, there is a ramp for luggage between the street level and upper lobby, it’s just well hidden - go to the left of the check-in desk, all the way against the wall (there’s one on the other side next to the food court).

Speaking of check-in, you can do self check-in via the iPads (no need to wait for a staff member). It’s less romantic, but much faster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>I couldn’t agree more about the rooms. By the way, there is a ramp for luggage between the street level and upper lobby, it’s just well hidden &#8211; go to the left of the check-in desk, all the way against the wall (there’s one on the other side next to the food court).</p>
<p>Speaking of check-in, you can do self check-in via the iPads (no need to wait for a staff member). It’s less romantic, but much faster.</p>
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		By: Garry Margolis		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/twa-hotel/#comment-381748</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 05:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the review! My first trip to New York was on TWA in 1965, and I well remember my amazement at the TWA Terminal at Idlewild Airport, with its arched walkways in the tunnels that connected the boarding gates and the ticketing lobby.

However, I disagree with your assessment of the Constellation display as inappropriate. To me, it&#039;s perfect!  I flew into New York on a Super Constellation from Los Angeles on a 12-hour redeye that stopped once in Kansas City. I chose it rather than a 707 flight because there was, at that time, a significant surcharge for jet fares and I was on a tight budget. I didn&#039;t sleep well because of the noise, and I wasn&#039;t looking forward to my return flight.

My return reservation, though, was changed to a one-stop 707 at no extra charge. It turned out that the inbound flight was one of the last transcontinental prop aircraft flights on TWA. That flight was much more pleasant.

However, I still get nostalgic when I think of the triple tail on that Connie...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review! My first trip to New York was on TWA in 1965, and I well remember my amazement at the TWA Terminal at Idlewild Airport, with its arched walkways in the tunnels that connected the boarding gates and the ticketing lobby.</p>
<p>However, I disagree with your assessment of the Constellation display as inappropriate. To me, it&#8217;s perfect!  I flew into New York on a Super Constellation from Los Angeles on a 12-hour redeye that stopped once in Kansas City. I chose it rather than a 707 flight because there was, at that time, a significant surcharge for jet fares and I was on a tight budget. I didn&#8217;t sleep well because of the noise, and I wasn&#8217;t looking forward to my return flight.</p>
<p>My return reservation, though, was changed to a one-stop 707 at no extra charge. It turned out that the inbound flight was one of the last transcontinental prop aircraft flights on TWA. That flight was much more pleasant.</p>
<p>However, I still get nostalgic when I think of the triple tail on that Connie&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/twa-hotel/#comment-381221</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 12:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great review Patrick - and a place I&#039;d love to visit when/if we&#039;re ever allowed to travel again.

The building is gorgeous and that photo at the top of the stairway is modernist architecture at its finest. Thank goodness it has been preserved in all of its mid-20th Century stark glory and not cheapened with advertising stands or later subdivisions and the like (looking at you London Stanstead).

One personal quibble - is it really &#039;the most architecturally significant airport terminal ever built&#039;? Prettiest? It&#039;s definitely one of the best; but surely Berlin Tempelhof is more significant because it pretty much invented the modern airport from acres of glass through to separate levels for arrivals and departures. It&#039;s also, in its own way - a very handsome building, and thank goodness it too has been preserved. Something I don&#039;t think anyone will be considering for Heathrow Terminal 4!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review Patrick &#8211; and a place I&#8217;d love to visit when/if we&#8217;re ever allowed to travel again.</p>
<p>The building is gorgeous and that photo at the top of the stairway is modernist architecture at its finest. Thank goodness it has been preserved in all of its mid-20th Century stark glory and not cheapened with advertising stands or later subdivisions and the like (looking at you London Stanstead).</p>
<p>One personal quibble &#8211; is it really &#8216;the most architecturally significant airport terminal ever built&#8217;? Prettiest? It&#8217;s definitely one of the best; but surely Berlin Tempelhof is more significant because it pretty much invented the modern airport from acres of glass through to separate levels for arrivals and departures. It&#8217;s also, in its own way &#8211; a very handsome building, and thank goodness it too has been preserved. Something I don&#8217;t think anyone will be considering for Heathrow Terminal 4!</p>
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		By: Tom Henderson		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/twa-hotel/#comment-381087</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great writing. Wonderful descriptions. You are a gifted writer, Sir. If you are as good at piloting an airplane as you are with the printed word, I&#039;d happily fly as your passenger any day of the week.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great writing. Wonderful descriptions. You are a gifted writer, Sir. If you are as good at piloting an airplane as you are with the printed word, I&#8217;d happily fly as your passenger any day of the week.</p>
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		By: Cameron Beck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Patrick: Such an interesting piece! You&#039;ve provided a glimpse into something that most of us will likely NOT see: the hotel.

Five months after Saarinen&#039;s Dulles terminal opened, I somehow persuaded my mother to take me out to it. Up until that point she had not shown any interest in airport terminals.

I was fourteen, plane crazy  (I&#039;d get my PPL four years later) and in awe of Saarinen&#039;s building. The beautiful swooping simplicity of it. My mother was similarly impressed. 

The only thing I didn&#039;t like were the mobile  lounges which struck me as clunky. Writing this, I went to Wikipedia to make sure I didn&#039;t embarrass myself with the wrong term for the vehicles. I was surprised to see the number of airports that use them.

The TWA terminal at JFK. I&#039;ve only seen it from the rear. A rear view is rarely flattering for anything. I remember sitting on a taxiway, eager to get airborne for a flight lesson, bouncing around in the exhaust of a Gulfstream. Looking at her underside, engines and landing gear, I  remember thinking how ugly this graceful plane appeared.

So it was with me for the TWA Flight Center. I&#039;ve only seen it from the rear. Far from giving a sense of flight, it looked more like a frog about to jump. But that was my limited view. I&#039;m grateful to you for providing the grand view. Thanks! cb]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patrick: Such an interesting piece! You&#8217;ve provided a glimpse into something that most of us will likely NOT see: the hotel.</p>
<p>Five months after Saarinen&#8217;s Dulles terminal opened, I somehow persuaded my mother to take me out to it. Up until that point she had not shown any interest in airport terminals.</p>
<p>I was fourteen, plane crazy  (I&#8217;d get my PPL four years later) and in awe of Saarinen&#8217;s building. The beautiful swooping simplicity of it. My mother was similarly impressed. </p>
<p>The only thing I didn&#8217;t like were the mobile  lounges which struck me as clunky. Writing this, I went to Wikipedia to make sure I didn&#8217;t embarrass myself with the wrong term for the vehicles. I was surprised to see the number of airports that use them.</p>
<p>The TWA terminal at JFK. I&#8217;ve only seen it from the rear. A rear view is rarely flattering for anything. I remember sitting on a taxiway, eager to get airborne for a flight lesson, bouncing around in the exhaust of a Gulfstream. Looking at her underside, engines and landing gear, I  remember thinking how ugly this graceful plane appeared.</p>
<p>So it was with me for the TWA Flight Center. I&#8217;ve only seen it from the rear. Far from giving a sense of flight, it looked more like a frog about to jump. But that was my limited view. I&#8217;m grateful to you for providing the grand view. Thanks! cb</p>
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		By: Michael Mitchell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article!  I had to cancel plans to stay as part of a trip to Cape Cod due to COVID, but will reschedule as soon as possible. I actually connected through here on a fam trip for travel agents to a Pars reservation system seminar in the Bahamas in 1988.  A truly classic piece of historic architecture! Thanks so much--can&#039;t wait to have the experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  I had to cancel plans to stay as part of a trip to Cape Cod due to COVID, but will reschedule as soon as possible. I actually connected through here on a fam trip for travel agents to a Pars reservation system seminar in the Bahamas in 1988.  A truly classic piece of historic architecture! Thanks so much&#8211;can&#8217;t wait to have the experience.</p>
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		By: Jeffrey Baldwin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are you sure it’s roll-aboard and not rollerboard?]]></description>
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		By: Jay J Becker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much for this. I was a Customs Agent at JFK for eight years during the 80&#039;s to early 90&#039;s and TWA was my favorite building. When I retired, I worked at Traveler&#039;s Aid as a volunteer, and spent most of those six years in T-5. What I did like about it was that the bathrooms were nice and clean, and it had the food court which did look hideous and had the problem of not enough chairs, and filthy tables which were never cleaned.  From time to time I had trouble with security to get through to the food court, as they weren&#039;t too good about letting employees get ahead of passenger lines, or letting Traveler&#039;s Aid people use the employee screening area. The walk from the Air Train was tedious, and it was not so reliable schedule wise. That train with only two cars became extremely crowded sometimes, and you had to climb over people&#039;s luggage to get in or out.  No plan was made to expand the train.  The Port Authority lacks imagination, but is very good at raising tolls. The airport still holds great excitement for me when I go there, but I now go when I am a traveling passenger. You mentioned Terminal 3:  That Pan Am building was a beauty in its early days but was so neglected that the best thing was to try and avoid it. Delta didn&#039;t improve it, and it seemed alot like Terminal 2 which seems to need help. You do a great service by publishing this material, and it is quite enjoyable.  Thanks so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this. I was a Customs Agent at JFK for eight years during the 80&#8217;s to early 90&#8217;s and TWA was my favorite building. When I retired, I worked at Traveler&#8217;s Aid as a volunteer, and spent most of those six years in T-5. What I did like about it was that the bathrooms were nice and clean, and it had the food court which did look hideous and had the problem of not enough chairs, and filthy tables which were never cleaned.  From time to time I had trouble with security to get through to the food court, as they weren&#8217;t too good about letting employees get ahead of passenger lines, or letting Traveler&#8217;s Aid people use the employee screening area. The walk from the Air Train was tedious, and it was not so reliable schedule wise. That train with only two cars became extremely crowded sometimes, and you had to climb over people&#8217;s luggage to get in or out.  No plan was made to expand the train.  The Port Authority lacks imagination, but is very good at raising tolls. The airport still holds great excitement for me when I go there, but I now go when I am a traveling passenger. You mentioned Terminal 3:  That Pan Am building was a beauty in its early days but was so neglected that the best thing was to try and avoid it. Delta didn&#8217;t improve it, and it seemed alot like Terminal 2 which seems to need help. You do a great service by publishing this material, and it is quite enjoyable.  Thanks so much.</p>
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		By: Michael Kennedy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just wait until the Northeast Express Regional Hotel opens up in Augusta, ME, featuring the Eric Lis and Scott Carey wings!]]></description>
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