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		By: tomterrific		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/the-drones-danger/#comment-404808</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2025 20:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Drone pilot caught
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drone pilot caught<br />
<a href="https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-collision-super-scooper-palisades-fire/3620389/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-collision-super-scooper-palisades-fire/3620389/</a></p>
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		By: tomterrific		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2025 01:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Super Scooper firefighting plane was grounded after it was struck by a drone over the Palisades Fire.

Fire officials in Southern California informed the FAA that a firefighting aircraft struck a drone Thursday as it was flying over the largest of the region&#039;s fires near the Los Angeles County coast, the agency said.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-palisades-fire/3600068/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Super Scooper firefighting plane was grounded after it was struck by a drone over the Palisades Fire.</p>
<p>Fire officials in Southern California informed the FAA that a firefighting aircraft struck a drone Thursday as it was flying over the largest of the region&#8217;s fires near the Los Angeles County coast, the agency said.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-palisades-fire/3600068/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-palisades-fire/3600068/</a></p>
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		By: tomterrific		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2025 01:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A drone damaged a firefighting plane over the biggest of the LA fires.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-palisades-fire/3600068/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A drone damaged a firefighting plane over the biggest of the LA fires.<br />
<a href="https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-palisades-fire/3600068/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-wildfires/drone-palisades-fire/3600068/</a></p>
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		By: Lurk		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/the-drones-danger/#comment-404294</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin&#062; ...authorities have been slacking off or oblivious to the need for greater regulation and enforcement...

I don&#039;t know about the USA or other countries, but in the UK and Canada the CAA &#038; its Canadian equivalent have introduced (more) regulations to control *all* UAVs inc.  Were I you I would be cautious in a call for immediate action as knee-jerk reponses usually create bad and (often) unworkable legislation.  The BMFA (British Model Flying Assoc.) had to work very hard to prevent the UK legislation killing aeromodelling in the UK stone dead. 

Although I think some of the CAA&#039;s regulations for model aircraft flight are unduly restrictive - the current bone of contention is mandatory RC dethermalisers for Free Flight models - I am prepared to accept them as a means of reducing the sort of idiocy reported in the link below.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-64241328]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin&gt; &#8230;authorities have been slacking off or oblivious to the need for greater regulation and enforcement&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the USA or other countries, but in the UK and Canada the CAA &amp; its Canadian equivalent have introduced (more) regulations to control *all* UAVs inc.  Were I you I would be cautious in a call for immediate action as knee-jerk reponses usually create bad and (often) unworkable legislation.  The BMFA (British Model Flying Assoc.) had to work very hard to prevent the UK legislation killing aeromodelling in the UK stone dead. </p>
<p>Although I think some of the CAA&#8217;s regulations for model aircraft flight are unduly restrictive &#8211; the current bone of contention is mandatory RC dethermalisers for Free Flight models &#8211; I am prepared to accept them as a means of reducing the sort of idiocy reported in the link below.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-64241328" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-64241328</a></p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/the-drones-danger/#comment-404279</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a horrible feeling that this situation has been allowed to creep into the danger zone while authorities have been slacking off or oblivious to the need for greater regulation and enforcement. And that it&#039;s going to take a major tragedy to shake people into attention. After it&#039;s too late.

Imagine this problem being allowed to fester if a terror group had organized a massive drone attack on infrastructure here, which is well within the bounds of feasibility.  Is that what it&#039;s gonna take to get some action?  Or an airliner forced down by a collision?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a horrible feeling that this situation has been allowed to creep into the danger zone while authorities have been slacking off or oblivious to the need for greater regulation and enforcement. And that it&#8217;s going to take a major tragedy to shake people into attention. After it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>Imagine this problem being allowed to fester if a terror group had organized a massive drone attack on infrastructure here, which is well within the bounds of feasibility.  Is that what it&#8217;s gonna take to get some action?  Or an airliner forced down by a collision?</p>
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		By: George		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/the-drones-danger/#comment-404275</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2024 17:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was going to do a bit of math, but we can just look at existing birdstrike tests to model the potential damage.  Only these drones, like in your example, are 3-6 times as heavy as the bird weight mentioned in the FARs.

It&#039;s not going to be good for fan blades or windscreens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to do a bit of math, but we can just look at existing birdstrike tests to model the potential damage.  Only these drones, like in your example, are 3-6 times as heavy as the bird weight mentioned in the FARs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not going to be good for fan blades or windscreens.</p>
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		By: Roger Wolff		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/the-drones-danger/#comment-404263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Wolff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 17:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hear this so often: Pounds of impact force. I think that&#039;s a ridiculous measure. 

How do you calculate that? IMHO if I drop a solid 1kg weight from 1m onto a concrete floor the impact force is ENORMOUS. If the weight stops in .1mm it will require at least 10000 G of acceleration, f=m*a, so we get a force of about 10^5 N. 

If we assume the drone creates a 10cm dent into the airplane, a 11.25kg drone hitting an airplane going 125m/s. I get 7800 G, f = m.a , so about 860kN of force. almost 200000 pounds of force. But this heavily depends on the dent that the drone makes in the plane. In this case I assumed a 10cm, 4&quot; dent. And when the damage remains a 10cm dent... there is no problem. Sure: An expensive repair, but no casualties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear this so often: Pounds of impact force. I think that&#8217;s a ridiculous measure. </p>
<p>How do you calculate that? IMHO if I drop a solid 1kg weight from 1m onto a concrete floor the impact force is ENORMOUS. If the weight stops in .1mm it will require at least 10000 G of acceleration, f=m*a, so we get a force of about 10^5 N. </p>
<p>If we assume the drone creates a 10cm dent into the airplane, a 11.25kg drone hitting an airplane going 125m/s. I get 7800 G, f = m.a , so about 860kN of force. almost 200000 pounds of force. But this heavily depends on the dent that the drone makes in the plane. In this case I assumed a 10cm, 4&#8243; dent. And when the damage remains a 10cm dent&#8230; there is no problem. Sure: An expensive repair, but no casualties.</p>
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		By: UncleStu		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/the-drones-danger/#comment-404262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UncleStu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let the states regulate drone airspace&quot;

That suggestion is a recipe for disaster.

States don&#039;t have more knowledge or wisdom than national government agencies. Today, they aren&#039;t much different from other states as they were when the country was founded. Also, State governments are cheaper and easier to influence, as has been shown.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let the states regulate drone airspace&#8221;</p>
<p>That suggestion is a recipe for disaster.</p>
<p>States don&#8217;t have more knowledge or wisdom than national government agencies. Today, they aren&#8217;t much different from other states as they were when the country was founded. Also, State governments are cheaper and easier to influence, as has been shown.</p>
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		By: Eric G		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/the-drones-danger/#comment-404257</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2024 16:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John, it&#039;s also trivial to cause chaos with laser pointers too. Fact is, people need to get some morals and understanding that there are people aboard those aircraft, and they aren&#039;t in a video game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, it&#8217;s also trivial to cause chaos with laser pointers too. Fact is, people need to get some morals and understanding that there are people aboard those aircraft, and they aren&#8217;t in a video game.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, Andreas, how do you propose we do that without endangering public safety? It&#039;s a good idea to think though something before putting it out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Andreas, how do you propose we do that without endangering public safety? It&#8217;s a good idea to think though something before putting it out there.</p>
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