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		By: Joseph Muller		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-400586</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Muller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 04:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was reminded of your prior material on de-icing when listening to a podcast about the crash of a regional flight in Alberta - long past the event in 1984, connecting two of the survivors (pilot and a passenger who was member of the provincial parliament - whose opposition leader died on the same flight, and daughter later became premier of Alberta). A pretty gripping narrative IMO of a pilot coming to terms with decisions made to take off in marginal conditions, experiencing icing that, affecting trip calculations, caused a miscalculation of position to tragic effect. As is often the case, a cascade of errors coming to a common end: https://snapjudgment.org/episode/into-the-abyss/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reminded of your prior material on de-icing when listening to a podcast about the crash of a regional flight in Alberta &#8211; long past the event in 1984, connecting two of the survivors (pilot and a passenger who was member of the provincial parliament &#8211; whose opposition leader died on the same flight, and daughter later became premier of Alberta). A pretty gripping narrative IMO of a pilot coming to terms with decisions made to take off in marginal conditions, experiencing icing that, affecting trip calculations, caused a miscalculation of position to tragic effect. As is often the case, a cascade of errors coming to a common end: <a href="https://snapjudgment.org/episode/into-the-abyss/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://snapjudgment.org/episode/into-the-abyss/</a></p>
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		By: Carlos Si		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-394227</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos Si]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 04:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hahahahahah, &quot;not to rub it in&quot;. There&#039;s a lot of rubbing there. Would hate to be on the active end of that snowstorm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahahah, &#8220;not to rub it in&#8221;. There&#8217;s a lot of rubbing there. Would hate to be on the active end of that snowstorm.</p>
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		By: wilson		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-394202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pilots vermoose when there&#039;s weather and fear of weather. Telling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pilots vermoose when there&#8217;s weather and fear of weather. Telling.</p>
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		By: Glenn Baxter		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-394192</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn Baxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been a few years and I don&#039;t remember the airport, but it was in the NE and we had to go back for de-icing 3 times due to the lineup for takeoffs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a few years and I don&#8217;t remember the airport, but it was in the NE and we had to go back for de-icing 3 times due to the lineup for takeoffs.</p>
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		By: Rob c.		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-380875</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob c.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 04:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rod,
How can you complain about the smell of Venice when you have been firmly lodged between Patrick’s butt cheeks for so long?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod,<br />
How can you complain about the smell of Venice when you have been firmly lodged between Patrick’s butt cheeks for so long?</p>
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		By: Richard Taylor		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-298100</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always enjoy reading your work.  I especially enjoy the more technical columns.  Sometimes they scare the hell out of me but they&#039;re
always informative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy reading your work.  I especially enjoy the more technical columns.  Sometimes they scare the hell out of me but they&#8217;re<br />
always informative.</p>
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		By: Julianne Adamik		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-298097</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julianne Adamik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just LOVE your blogs! Not only are you a great writer, but I always learn something I didn’t know about airplanes, airports or flying. Now that I’m retired I don’t travel as much as I did in the past, But, when I do it’s for pleasure, not work! Still, I find myself going somewhere about once a month. The best part is when I see the flight delayed or cancelled notice come up on the board my response now is...”whatever” instead of “shit!”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just LOVE your blogs! Not only are you a great writer, but I always learn something I didn’t know about airplanes, airports or flying. Now that I’m retired I don’t travel as much as I did in the past, But, when I do it’s for pleasure, not work! Still, I find myself going somewhere about once a month. The best part is when I see the flight delayed or cancelled notice come up on the board my response now is&#8230;”whatever” instead of “shit!”</p>
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		By: Henry Thomas Doyle		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-260113</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Thomas Doyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 17:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aviation Safety Research &#038; Development has developed an innovative hazardous chemical free method for deicing aircraft, with the capability of virtually eliminating most flight delays and cancellations. The unique state-of-the-art ice detection features of our design, and our principal ground operations safety protocol will make air catastrophes due to undetected ice buildup on the wings during takeoff a thing of the past. We have Incorporated all reported recommendations of the ACRP &#039;Airport Cooperative Research Program&#039; deicing  practices, sponsored by the Federal Aviation Administration. Our innovative method plan adheres strictly to the new/revised guidelines and regulations issued August 5, 2016 for the winter of 2016-2017, in addition we have also implemented into method plan the FAA published long-range &quot;Wish List&quot; of certain safety protocols including, aircraft communications addressing and reporting system (ACARS) data link system of aircraft to relay deicing information to the flight crew. Unfortunately the fixed base of operation ground deicing operations contractors, airport decision-makers and the industry&#039;s manufacturers of deicing equipment have been ignoring this valuable extensive and informative research information available since 2009 paid for by millions and millions of taxpayer dollars. The aviation industries complacency to continue to do business as usual, contributing to loss of life and extremely adverse effects on our environment will no longer be a]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aviation Safety Research &amp; Development has developed an innovative hazardous chemical free method for deicing aircraft, with the capability of virtually eliminating most flight delays and cancellations. The unique state-of-the-art ice detection features of our design, and our principal ground operations safety protocol will make air catastrophes due to undetected ice buildup on the wings during takeoff a thing of the past. We have Incorporated all reported recommendations of the ACRP &#8216;Airport Cooperative Research Program&#8217; deicing  practices, sponsored by the Federal Aviation Administration. Our innovative method plan adheres strictly to the new/revised guidelines and regulations issued August 5, 2016 for the winter of 2016-2017, in addition we have also implemented into method plan the FAA published long-range &#8220;Wish List&#8221; of certain safety protocols including, aircraft communications addressing and reporting system (ACARS) data link system of aircraft to relay deicing information to the flight crew. Unfortunately the fixed base of operation ground deicing operations contractors, airport decision-makers and the industry&#8217;s manufacturers of deicing equipment have been ignoring this valuable extensive and informative research information available since 2009 paid for by millions and millions of taxpayer dollars. The aviation industries complacency to continue to do business as usual, contributing to loss of life and extremely adverse effects on our environment will no longer be a</p>
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		By: ZenitFan		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-252312</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ZenitFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2016 04:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-211136&quot;&gt;Kevin B&lt;/a&gt;.

&#062;&#062;. . . I was thinking what do I do if we start the take-off roll without flaps?&#060;&#060;

Two-word answer: You crash, like Delta 1141 at DFW on 8/31/88. (Fortunately the vast majority of passengers &#038; crew survived.) The crew were so busy talking about extraneous stuff during the checklist that they forgot to extend the flaps.

I vividly remember that crash because I was the wx observer on duty that morning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-211136">Kevin B</a>.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;. . . I was thinking what do I do if we start the take-off roll without flaps?&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Two-word answer: You crash, like Delta 1141 at DFW on 8/31/88. (Fortunately the vast majority of passengers &amp; crew survived.) The crew were so busy talking about extraneous stuff during the checklist that they forgot to extend the flaps.</p>
<p>I vividly remember that crash because I was the wx observer on duty that morning.</p>
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		By: Roger Wolff		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-252098</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Wolff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-210972&quot;&gt;Rod&lt;/a&gt;.

Most of the wing does not &quot;impact&quot; the freezing rain or whatever it is that accumulates on the wing. This means that once you take care of the leading edge, the problem is fixed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/#comment-210972">Rod</a>.</p>
<p>Most of the wing does not &#8220;impact&#8221; the freezing rain or whatever it is that accumulates on the wing. This means that once you take care of the leading edge, the problem is fixed.</p>
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