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		By: Ma Guang Yuan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ma Guang Yuan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2025 03:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Captain Smith,  

I come from China and I am a high school student.
  
 I’m an avid reader of your book 《ask the pilot》and deeply appreciate your insights into aviation. I’d like to ask two questions related to pilot mental health:  
  
 1. Mental Health in Aviation: How do pilots typically cope with stress and psychological pressures? Are there systemic gaps in mental health support for crews?  
 2. MU5735 Incident: As an expert, what are your thoughts on the role of pilot mental health in this tragedy (if any)? How can the industry improve?  Or what are your views and opinions on the accident?

 I understand this is a sensitive topic, but your perspective would help clarify public concerns. Thank you for your time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Captain Smith,  </p>
<p>I come from China and I am a high school student.</p>
<p> I’m an avid reader of your book 《ask the pilot》and deeply appreciate your insights into aviation. I’d like to ask two questions related to pilot mental health:  </p>
<p> 1. Mental Health in Aviation: How do pilots typically cope with stress and psychological pressures? Are there systemic gaps in mental health support for crews?<br />
 2. MU5735 Incident: As an expert, what are your thoughts on the role of pilot mental health in this tragedy (if any)? How can the industry improve?  Or what are your views and opinions on the accident?</p>
<p> I understand this is a sensitive topic, but your perspective would help clarify public concerns. Thank you for your time!</p>
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		By: Ronald P		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400442</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2023 18:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Admiral Cloudberg covered this in depth in their article on the German Wings crash. https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/the-madness-in-our-methods-the-crash-of-germanwings-flight-9525-and-our-broken-aeromedical-system-5b95abd4fe6d As usual for their stuff, highly recommend. Change is needed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admiral Cloudberg covered this in depth in their article on the German Wings crash. <a href="https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/the-madness-in-our-methods-the-crash-of-germanwings-flight-9525-and-our-broken-aeromedical-system-5b95abd4fe6d" rel="nofollow ugc">https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/the-madness-in-our-methods-the-crash-of-germanwings-flight-9525-and-our-broken-aeromedical-system-5b95abd4fe6d</a> As usual for their stuff, highly recommend. Change is needed.</p>
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		By: Patrick		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400401</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400391&quot;&gt;Alan&lt;/a&gt;.

Without further complications, it would’ve been fairly straightforward to restart the engines. They had plenty of time and altitude.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400391">Alan</a>.</p>
<p>Without further complications, it would’ve been fairly straightforward to restart the engines. They had plenty of time and altitude.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 04:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know this is a bit off topic, but if Emerson had managed to cut off the fuel flow and shut down the engines, would the pilots been able to restart them and continue the flight?  Assuming Emerson was ejected from the cockpit promptly of course.  Is that something training would have covered?

In GA training, instructors are fond of closing the throttle and asking the student &quot;where ya gonna land?&quot;  This seems like a different order of problem, given how complicated it is to start get engines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a bit off topic, but if Emerson had managed to cut off the fuel flow and shut down the engines, would the pilots been able to restart them and continue the flight?  Assuming Emerson was ejected from the cockpit promptly of course.  Is that something training would have covered?</p>
<p>In GA training, instructors are fond of closing the throttle and asking the student &#8220;where ya gonna land?&#8221;  This seems like a different order of problem, given how complicated it is to start get engines.</p>
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		By: MWnyc		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400378</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 08:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read several different places that shrooms pass out of your system within a few hours, definitely by 24 hours later.  So it seems very likely that Emerson was no longer under the influence of the shrooms themselves.

I&#039;ve also read that, in people with underlying mental illness, shrooms can trigger a psychotic break a day or two later -- and a psychotic break seems to me to match the way Emerson described what he was experiencing.

It&#039;s a very good thing that he had the presence of mind, once the pilots got him out of the flight deck, to go to a flight attendant and ask to be zip-tied.

So I wouldn&#039;t be inclined to convict Emerson of attempted murder.  Interfering with a flight crew and reckless endangerment, yes, but it seems clear that he had no intent to kill.

Also from what I read, he seems to have had an exemplary career before this. If that&#039;s the case, obviously he shouldn&#039;t, and almost certainly won&#039;t, be allowed to fly again, but I hope that an airline could see fit to hire him for its training staff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read several different places that shrooms pass out of your system within a few hours, definitely by 24 hours later.  So it seems very likely that Emerson was no longer under the influence of the shrooms themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also read that, in people with underlying mental illness, shrooms can trigger a psychotic break a day or two later &#8212; and a psychotic break seems to me to match the way Emerson described what he was experiencing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very good thing that he had the presence of mind, once the pilots got him out of the flight deck, to go to a flight attendant and ask to be zip-tied.</p>
<p>So I wouldn&#8217;t be inclined to convict Emerson of attempted murder.  Interfering with a flight crew and reckless endangerment, yes, but it seems clear that he had no intent to kill.</p>
<p>Also from what I read, he seems to have had an exemplary career before this. If that&#8217;s the case, obviously he shouldn&#8217;t, and almost certainly won&#8217;t, be allowed to fly again, but I hope that an airline could see fit to hire him for its training staff.</p>
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		By: Glenn Baxter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mental illness is not the only condition that will get an employee kicked to the curb. Many years ago I was a salesman with a large computer company, well above quota, diagnosed with cancer. 

After my treatment they did not fire me, but they stuck me in the hinterlands, where I still excelled. When the next economic downturn came, they closed the hinterlands offices. 

A few years later I ran into my old boss at a trade show and he was truly shocked that I was still alive. This was 30 years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mental illness is not the only condition that will get an employee kicked to the curb. Many years ago I was a salesman with a large computer company, well above quota, diagnosed with cancer. </p>
<p>After my treatment they did not fire me, but they stuck me in the hinterlands, where I still excelled. When the next economic downturn came, they closed the hinterlands offices. </p>
<p>A few years later I ran into my old boss at a trade show and he was truly shocked that I was still alive. This was 30 years ago.</p>
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		By: Richard Starrett		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400322</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Starrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a physician, a surgeon, not a psychiatrist.  Pilots have mental illness just like everyone else.  Depression is common and readily treatable in most people.  It&#039;s laughable that your heart surgeon might be profoundly depressed and on medication, but nobody will ever even check.  He or she can practice without any disclosure to anybody.  A pilot with an ATP has clearly proven him/herself over time and there is a huge amount invested in all that training.  Commercial pilots need to be able to admit, address and be treated for mental health issues for the safety of all of us and for simple fairness. Unlike surgeons, commercial pilots in the cockpit have a second pilot there to help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a physician, a surgeon, not a psychiatrist.  Pilots have mental illness just like everyone else.  Depression is common and readily treatable in most people.  It&#8217;s laughable that your heart surgeon might be profoundly depressed and on medication, but nobody will ever even check.  He or she can practice without any disclosure to anybody.  A pilot with an ATP has clearly proven him/herself over time and there is a huge amount invested in all that training.  Commercial pilots need to be able to admit, address and be treated for mental health issues for the safety of all of us and for simple fairness. Unlike surgeons, commercial pilots in the cockpit have a second pilot there to help.</p>
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		By: Walter		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400321</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Safety and pilot lives will improve to the same degree that treatment options without fear of consequences improve even further. And consider: Many people with a mental illness of a certain seriousness will take a life without suffering of their illness any day over a career continuation. Take severe cases of depression for instance. This will upend one’s life for a significant time, to a point that simply choosing your shoes for the day, which route to drive to work or how to cope with one‘s bosses dissatisfaction because of your two days of sick leave will make for tremendous suffering and despair. My wife‘s career (not in aviation) ended like that.

Me, I had a mild episode of depression two years ago. I’m currently on maintenance medication, a light anti-depressant. Entering PPL(A) training, my class 2 med ended with a restriction that prevents me from taking on passengers, that is friends, even my wife. The drug that is allowed under FAA rules, is potentially allowed under EASA rules, if your EU home country decides so. Unfortunately, in Lubitz’ home country, guess whether there is enough political will to allow this… :-(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safety and pilot lives will improve to the same degree that treatment options without fear of consequences improve even further. And consider: Many people with a mental illness of a certain seriousness will take a life without suffering of their illness any day over a career continuation. Take severe cases of depression for instance. This will upend one’s life for a significant time, to a point that simply choosing your shoes for the day, which route to drive to work or how to cope with one‘s bosses dissatisfaction because of your two days of sick leave will make for tremendous suffering and despair. My wife‘s career (not in aviation) ended like that.</p>
<p>Me, I had a mild episode of depression two years ago. I’m currently on maintenance medication, a light anti-depressant. Entering PPL(A) training, my class 2 med ended with a restriction that prevents me from taking on passengers, that is friends, even my wife. The drug that is allowed under FAA rules, is potentially allowed under EASA rules, if your EU home country decides so. Unfortunately, in Lubitz’ home country, guess whether there is enough political will to allow this… 🙁</p>
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		By: Ellie Presner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellie Presner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe we can add to the depressed list of Lubitz et al: Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah? I still hope that one day the wreck will be found… along with some answers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we can add to the depressed list of Lubitz et al: Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah? I still hope that one day the wreck will be found… along with some answers.</p>
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		By: Rod		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/psyching-out/#comment-400315</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 18:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Kevin implies, there&#039;s no lack of sputtering psychopaths out on the roads, but who worries about each potential death-bomb that zips past you going the other direction just a painted line away? And any nutjob can get a driver&#039;s licence.

As with alcohol abuse, it clearly isn&#039;t in the aviation industry&#039;s interest to drive mental illness underground. The less punitive the approach, the more willing people will be to grasp a helping hand.

My wife has been schizophrenic for decades. The stigma, &#038; fear, is completely unwarranted.
And I&#039;ve been a Dodgers fan ever since I learned they&#039;ve been giving Andrew Toles a no-pay contract for years now only so he can benefit from the team&#039;s health insurance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Kevin implies, there&#8217;s no lack of sputtering psychopaths out on the roads, but who worries about each potential death-bomb that zips past you going the other direction just a painted line away? And any nutjob can get a driver&#8217;s licence.</p>
<p>As with alcohol abuse, it clearly isn&#8217;t in the aviation industry&#8217;s interest to drive mental illness underground. The less punitive the approach, the more willing people will be to grasp a helping hand.</p>
<p>My wife has been schizophrenic for decades. The stigma, &amp; fear, is completely unwarranted.<br />
And I&#8217;ve been a Dodgers fan ever since I learned they&#8217;ve been giving Andrew Toles a no-pay contract for years now only so he can benefit from the team&#8217;s health insurance.</p>
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