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		By: Chen Yifan		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/ode-to-the-757/#comment-400332</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chen Yifan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In China, the Boeing 757 civilian model has not seen, in fact, I personally think that 757 and 767 are good models ah, why the Chinese airlines so eager to civilian 757 767 retired ah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In China, the Boeing 757 civilian model has not seen, in fact, I personally think that 757 and 767 are good models ah, why the Chinese airlines so eager to civilian 757 767 retired ah</p>
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		By: Theodore Groutsis		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/ode-to-the-757/#comment-398114</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just an enthusiast here - not an expert by any means - wondering about this:
&#062;What would it have been like in the opposite direction, I wondered — a longer flight, from a shorter runway, in the face of winter headwinds?

Wouldn&#039;t a headwind make things better since IMHO it effectively &quot;elongates&quot; the runway?

 By the way, although an AirBus fan, I always admired the 757 for its sleek design and AWESOME (actually SPOTLESS) safety record!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an enthusiast here &#8211; not an expert by any means &#8211; wondering about this:<br />
&gt;What would it have been like in the opposite direction, I wondered — a longer flight, from a shorter runway, in the face of winter headwinds?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t a headwind make things better since IMHO it effectively &#8220;elongates&#8221; the runway?</p>
<p> By the way, although an AirBus fan, I always admired the 757 for its sleek design and AWESOME (actually SPOTLESS) safety record!</p>
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		By: Speed		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/ode-to-the-757/#comment-397446</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More on the MAX ...

&lt;b&gt;Full-Year Boeing 737 MAX Delivery Target Getting More Elusive&lt;/b&gt;

The company is facing several headwinds in its effort to clear its 737 MAX backlog. Among them: aircraft coming out of storage are taking longer to ready for service than anticipated, and some are changing hands, forcing repainting and reconfiguration work; the prolonged 737-7 certification process has held up initial deliveries of the family’s smallest variant, once expected to take place in early 2022; and China has not resumed taking deliveries since the model’s grounding.

https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/full-year-boeing-737-max-delivery-target-getting-more-elusive]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the MAX &#8230;</p>
<p><b>Full-Year Boeing 737 MAX Delivery Target Getting More Elusive</b></p>
<p>The company is facing several headwinds in its effort to clear its 737 MAX backlog. Among them: aircraft coming out of storage are taking longer to ready for service than anticipated, and some are changing hands, forcing repainting and reconfiguration work; the prolonged 737-7 certification process has held up initial deliveries of the family’s smallest variant, once expected to take place in early 2022; and China has not resumed taking deliveries since the model’s grounding.</p>
<p><a href="https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/full-year-boeing-737-max-delivery-target-getting-more-elusive" rel="nofollow ugc">https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/full-year-boeing-737-max-delivery-target-getting-more-elusive</a></p>
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		By: Speed		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/ode-to-the-757/#comment-397434</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 21:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would be interesting to see some numbers -- What has it cost Boeing to develop, certify and manufacture the various 737-MAX aircraft (including fixes) compared to what it might have cost to develop, certify and manufacture a 757 replacement.

I understand that there is a lot of baggage required to certify a new aircraft that isn&#039;t there with an upgrade but then there was this ...

&lt;i&gt;In 2019, Moody&#039;s had estimated Boeing&#039;s operating margin to be US$12–15 million for each 737 MAX 8 at its list price of $121.6 million, although the list price is usually discounted 50–55% in practice. This high margin was made possible by the efficiencies of production volume and the amortization of development costs and capital investment over the decades of the program run. However, costs have since risen significantly and the margin reduced following the two crashes, the FAA grounding, and the severe disruption to production. Boeing estimated it would cost an additional $6.3 billion to produce the remaining 737 MAX program, $4 billion for &quot;future abnormal costs&quot; as production restarted, plus an estimated $8.3 billion for concessions and compensation to customers.&lt;/i&gt;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX

There is of course no way to anticipate all the possible bumps in the road but this one was more pot-holes than pavement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see some numbers &#8212; What has it cost Boeing to develop, certify and manufacture the various 737-MAX aircraft (including fixes) compared to what it might have cost to develop, certify and manufacture a 757 replacement.</p>
<p>I understand that there is a lot of baggage required to certify a new aircraft that isn&#8217;t there with an upgrade but then there was this &#8230;</p>
<p><i>In 2019, Moody&#8217;s had estimated Boeing&#8217;s operating margin to be US$12–15 million for each 737 MAX 8 at its list price of $121.6 million, although the list price is usually discounted 50–55% in practice. This high margin was made possible by the efficiencies of production volume and the amortization of development costs and capital investment over the decades of the program run. However, costs have since risen significantly and the margin reduced following the two crashes, the FAA grounding, and the severe disruption to production. Boeing estimated it would cost an additional $6.3 billion to produce the remaining 737 MAX program, $4 billion for &#8220;future abnormal costs&#8221; as production restarted, plus an estimated $8.3 billion for concessions and compensation to customers.</i></p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX</a></p>
<p>There is of course no way to anticipate all the possible bumps in the road but this one was more pot-holes than pavement.</p>
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