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		By: Paul S		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was just a kid when the crash at ORD happened, but I know that for several years I was apprehensive about flying on a DC-10 after seeing the photo and video on the news. Oddly enough, the other thing that stands out for m about the DC-10 was that my family lived a short drive from McDonnell Douglas’ Long Beach plant, and I remember seeing several bumper stickers saying”I’m proud of the DC-10”- whether those bumper stickers were in response to the crash or something that became ironic after the crash happened, I couldn’t tell you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just a kid when the crash at ORD happened, but I know that for several years I was apprehensive about flying on a DC-10 after seeing the photo and video on the news. Oddly enough, the other thing that stands out for m about the DC-10 was that my family lived a short drive from McDonnell Douglas’ Long Beach plant, and I remember seeing several bumper stickers saying”I’m proud of the DC-10”- whether those bumper stickers were in response to the crash or something that became ironic after the crash happened, I couldn’t tell you.</p>
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		By: Steggy		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/memorial-day-dc10/#comment-403968</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 03:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“The plane’s reputation was such that some people refused to ride on one.”

I was one of those people—I always checked the OAG (remember the OAG?) to see what equipment was operating the flight.
 
The day of flight 191’s crash, I was at O’Hare, in terminal 2, checking in for a flight to LAX on competitor United Airlines (operating a 727 to LAX).  I’ll never forget it when someone shouted, “Holy sh*t!  That plane’s gonna crash.”  I recall spinning around toward the direction of the voice, which had me facing more-or-less north, not in time to see the aircraft rolled over, but in time to see the smoke arise from the crash, as well as hear the sickening “thud” from the impact.  To say it was pandemonium in the terminal would have been the understatement of the century.
 
The DC-10 was apparently designed by the accounting department at McDonnell-Douglas, not the engineering department.  I have not traveled on one since 1975.  As history does repeat itself, it seems the MAX 8 is deja vu all over again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The plane’s reputation was such that some people refused to ride on one.”</p>
<p>I was one of those people—I always checked the OAG (remember the OAG?) to see what equipment was operating the flight.<br />
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The day of flight 191’s crash, I was at O’Hare, in terminal 2, checking in for a flight to LAX on competitor United Airlines (operating a 727 to LAX).  I’ll never forget it when someone shouted, “Holy sh*t!  That plane’s gonna crash.”  I recall spinning around toward the direction of the voice, which had me facing more-or-less north, not in time to see the aircraft rolled over, but in time to see the smoke arise from the crash, as well as hear the sickening “thud” from the impact.  To say it was pandemonium in the terminal would have been the understatement of the century.<br />
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The DC-10 was apparently designed by the accounting department at McDonnell-Douglas, not the engineering department.  I have not traveled on one since 1975.  As history does repeat itself, it seems the MAX 8 is deja vu all over again.</p>
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		By: Jeffrey Latten		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/memorial-day-dc10/#comment-403793</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember those days vividly. I also changed flights when I found out I was going  to be on a 10.  It was a scary time. I think it popularized the phrase &quot;If it ain&#039;t Boeing, I ain&#039;t going.&quot; Don&#039;t hold me to that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember those days vividly. I also changed flights when I found out I was going  to be on a 10.  It was a scary time. I think it popularized the phrase &#8220;If it ain&#8217;t Boeing, I ain&#8217;t going.&#8221; Don&#8217;t hold me to that.</p>
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		By: Tim		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/memorial-day-dc10/#comment-403473</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 22:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grateful for DC10&#039;s in recent operation in Wyoming!

https://www.wyomingnews.com/house-draw-fire/image_ab2c740a-60d5-11ef-a232-8fd86be6b4f0.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grateful for DC10&#8217;s in recent operation in Wyoming!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.wyomingnews.com/house-draw-fire/image_ab2c740a-60d5-11ef-a232-8fd86be6b4f0.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.wyomingnews.com/house-draw-fire/image_ab2c740a-60d5-11ef-a232-8fd86be6b4f0.html</a></p>
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		By: Clark		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/memorial-day-dc10/#comment-402926</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2024 20:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And speaking of flights out of DEN in the late 1980s (Patrick would recall this), I used to go to Boston a lot, and United ran an ancient 4-engine DC-8 on that route. Like the Boeing 707, but perhaps a bit larger. UA had to be the last carrier in the US operating those 1960s-vintage wonders, but I recall it being a nice ride, quiet and powerful. Probably a fuel hog though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And speaking of flights out of DEN in the late 1980s (Patrick would recall this), I used to go to Boston a lot, and United ran an ancient 4-engine DC-8 on that route. Like the Boeing 707, but perhaps a bit larger. UA had to be the last carrier in the US operating those 1960s-vintage wonders, but I recall it being a nice ride, quiet and powerful. Probably a fuel hog though.</p>
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		By: Clark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2024 20:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I lived in Denver in the mid-80s and loved flying the United DC-10.  Stapleton had few international non-stops in those days, so you never saw a 747 there, which left the DC-10 as the only real widebody.  It was incredibly spacious and comfortable compared to the usual 737s and those awful UA and CO 727s, which had such a shallow climb angle from the Mile-High City that it seemed like 10 minutes after takeoff you were still 500 feet above the plains. 

I flew the DEN-ORD route regularly for business, and usually on a United DC-10.  When UA 232 crashed in Iowa in 1989 after the tail engine blew, I remember my mom calling me in a panic to make sure I wasn’t on it. Didn’t really scare me off, though; I continued to seek out the plane in preference to narrow-bodies. I guess I figured then, as now, when your number is up, doesn’t matter if you’re on a plane or crossing a street and getting hit by a bus. No sense worrying about things you can’t control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Denver in the mid-80s and loved flying the United DC-10.  Stapleton had few international non-stops in those days, so you never saw a 747 there, which left the DC-10 as the only real widebody.  It was incredibly spacious and comfortable compared to the usual 737s and those awful UA and CO 727s, which had such a shallow climb angle from the Mile-High City that it seemed like 10 minutes after takeoff you were still 500 feet above the plains. </p>
<p>I flew the DEN-ORD route regularly for business, and usually on a United DC-10.  When UA 232 crashed in Iowa in 1989 after the tail engine blew, I remember my mom calling me in a panic to make sure I wasn’t on it. Didn’t really scare me off, though; I continued to seek out the plane in preference to narrow-bodies. I guess I figured then, as now, when your number is up, doesn’t matter if you’re on a plane or crossing a street and getting hit by a bus. No sense worrying about things you can’t control.</p>
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		By: Erica Foley		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/memorial-day-dc10/#comment-402897</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erica Foley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2024 23:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was 9 years old and living in Chicago when that plane crashed. I think the Sun-Times carried a headline the following day that was just &quot;Pilot: &#039;Damn&#039;&quot;

A few months later, my family took me on my first airplane flight, from Chicago to Cleveland. The plane was a DC-10, and our left engine flamed out a few seconds after takeoff. I soon came to understand that we were never in especially serious danger (though dozens of fire trucks awaited us on our emergency landing about 10 minutes later)... But my fear of flying was pretty well kindled that day.

Fourteen years later and it had been years since I last flew. As a Christmas present my parents bought me a spot in the American Airlines &quot;AAirBorne&quot; fear of flying class. And you can presumably guess what aircraft we got on our return &quot;graduation flight&quot; :)   That said, I made it, and although I am still a nervous flyer I have flown 20-50K miles every year since.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was 9 years old and living in Chicago when that plane crashed. I think the Sun-Times carried a headline the following day that was just &#8220;Pilot: &#8216;Damn'&#8221;</p>
<p>A few months later, my family took me on my first airplane flight, from Chicago to Cleveland. The plane was a DC-10, and our left engine flamed out a few seconds after takeoff. I soon came to understand that we were never in especially serious danger (though dozens of fire trucks awaited us on our emergency landing about 10 minutes later)&#8230; But my fear of flying was pretty well kindled that day.</p>
<p>Fourteen years later and it had been years since I last flew. As a Christmas present my parents bought me a spot in the American Airlines &#8220;AAirBorne&#8221; fear of flying class. And you can presumably guess what aircraft we got on our return &#8220;graduation flight&#8221; 🙂   That said, I made it, and although I am still a nervous flyer I have flown 20-50K miles every year since.</p>
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		By: Simon Rochman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a high school student in Chicago when the DC10 crash occurred and one of the pictures was the front page of Newsweek that showed the front of a DC10 with the headline: &quot;How Safe&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a high school student in Chicago when the DC10 crash occurred and one of the pictures was the front page of Newsweek that showed the front of a DC10 with the headline: &#8220;How Safe&#8221;</p>
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		By: Patrick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2024 00:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askthepilot.com/memorial-day-dc10/#comment-402726&quot;&gt;Harry&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, for the record, Air Canada never flew the DC-10.

BA flew them for a while in the 1990s -- inherited from British Caledonian Airways.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askthepilot.com/memorial-day-dc10/#comment-402726">Harry</a>.</p>
<p>Well, for the record, Air Canada never flew the DC-10.</p>
<p>BA flew them for a while in the 1990s &#8212; inherited from British Caledonian Airways.</p>
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		By: Harry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2024 15:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d paid a premium to fly with BA for a visit to my sister in Canada. All as expected outbound. But getting to the gate at Toronto for the return, I was horrified to see an ageing Air Canada DC-10 waiting for me. I was very familiar with all the DC-10 crashes and problems. So, waiting 4 hours to board because of &#039;technical problems,&#039; I was relieved the breakdowns were on the ground rather than in the air.

It was not a relaxed flight back to London.

This plane was a disaster from start to finish. All should have been grounded after the first crash.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d paid a premium to fly with BA for a visit to my sister in Canada. All as expected outbound. But getting to the gate at Toronto for the return, I was horrified to see an ageing Air Canada DC-10 waiting for me. I was very familiar with all the DC-10 crashes and problems. So, waiting 4 hours to board because of &#8216;technical problems,&#8217; I was relieved the breakdowns were on the ground rather than in the air.</p>
<p>It was not a relaxed flight back to London.</p>
<p>This plane was a disaster from start to finish. All should have been grounded after the first crash.</p>
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