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		By: Darina Minarcikova		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-404244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darina Minarcikova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2024 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Moc zajímavé. Děkuji za informaci.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moc zajímavé. Děkuji za informaci.</p>
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		By: Bill B		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2024 06:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Adding to the enjoyment of an overheated cabin is the aroma exuding from the pores of those folks who have a pathological aversion to soap, water and a washcloth.  Perhaps the FARs should include a rule requiring that all occupants of an airliner bathe and apply deodorant before boarding.  We’ve regulated the hell out of everything else associated with air travel. Might as well get something going with personal hygiene.

And, no, dumping a half-gallon of cologne or perfume on your odoriferous carcass does not count! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to the enjoyment of an overheated cabin is the aroma exuding from the pores of those folks who have a pathological aversion to soap, water and a washcloth.  Perhaps the FARs should include a rule requiring that all occupants of an airliner bathe and apply deodorant before boarding.  We’ve regulated the hell out of everything else associated with air travel. Might as well get something going with personal hygiene.</p>
<p>And, no, dumping a half-gallon of cologne or perfume on your odoriferous carcass does not count! 🙂</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403188</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2024 23:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it gets too hot for most planes - can we bring back the VC-10?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it gets too hot for most planes &#8211; can we bring back the VC-10?</p>
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		By: Gene		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403157</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2024 04:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the 70s when AA first decided to fly 747s into PHX, they started in the winter (peak season for travel there.) When summer rolled around, they canceled all 747 flights because they couldn&#039;t carry a paying load with the runway lengths. That&#039;s also when Terminal 2 got the first Skybridge at Sky Harbor. Gate 2, AA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 70s when AA first decided to fly 747s into PHX, they started in the winter (peak season for travel there.) When summer rolled around, they canceled all 747 flights because they couldn&#8217;t carry a paying load with the runway lengths. That&#8217;s also when Terminal 2 got the first Skybridge at Sky Harbor. Gate 2, AA.</p>
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		By: Rebecca L		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403150</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2024 04:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recently heard a podcast about the plight of the plane cleaners. Apparently the airlines don’t want to spend the money to run air-conditioning for a few people (u derstandable), but I think I remember them not being allowed to carry water with them, and their lockers are not nearby. It sounded like OSHA violations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently heard a podcast about the plight of the plane cleaners. Apparently the airlines don’t want to spend the money to run air-conditioning for a few people (u derstandable), but I think I remember them not being allowed to carry water with them, and their lockers are not nearby. It sounded like OSHA violations.</p>
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		By: David Bunin		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Bunin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 13:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In addition to the air source feeding the packs, there is the problem of the radiators (or heat exchangers) themselves.  Those devices are sized/designed to be efficient when there is air blowing through them at five hundred miles per hour in flight.  Yes, there are fans that draw ambient air across the radiators when the airplane is parked, but it&#039;s just not as robust a blast as the stream of air molecules blasting through there in flight.  So the output of the pack just doesn&#039;t have the same cooling capacity when the airplane isn&#039;t flying.  The best air conditioning I&#039;ve worked on was the EMB-145, which on a humid August day in Houston could actually make it snow out the vents in the cockpit.  I guess when you&#039;re an engineer designing a plane in the amazon, you give it good air conditioning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the air source feeding the packs, there is the problem of the radiators (or heat exchangers) themselves.  Those devices are sized/designed to be efficient when there is air blowing through them at five hundred miles per hour in flight.  Yes, there are fans that draw ambient air across the radiators when the airplane is parked, but it&#8217;s just not as robust a blast as the stream of air molecules blasting through there in flight.  So the output of the pack just doesn&#8217;t have the same cooling capacity when the airplane isn&#8217;t flying.  The best air conditioning I&#8217;ve worked on was the EMB-145, which on a humid August day in Houston could actually make it snow out the vents in the cockpit.  I guess when you&#8217;re an engineer designing a plane in the amazon, you give it good air conditioning.</p>
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		By: Gimlet Winglet		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403147</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gimlet Winglet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 07:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good information.

One wonders if the airlines operating out of places like Phoenix have policies like &quot;hey, that&#039;s a midafternoon July departure from Phoenix, let&#039;s cap bookings at 80 or 90%&quot;.

Naaah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good information.</p>
<p>One wonders if the airlines operating out of places like Phoenix have policies like &#8220;hey, that&#8217;s a midafternoon July departure from Phoenix, let&#8217;s cap bookings at 80 or 90%&#8221;.</p>
<p>Naaah.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403145</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 03:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the explanation. I would&#039;ve liked to have seen this 20+ years ago when it hit 122 F at Phoenix&#039;s Sky Harbor and they held a bunch of flights until it cooled down. They explained at the time that they didn&#039;t &quot;have data&quot; for the performance above about 120 degrees. Lift, baggage weight, equipment temps, and not to mention the poor guys loading my wife&#039;s bags, each with a &quot;Heavy&quot; sticker, onto the plane. As with everything you do, it makes sense when you explain it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the explanation. I would&#8217;ve liked to have seen this 20+ years ago when it hit 122 F at Phoenix&#8217;s Sky Harbor and they held a bunch of flights until it cooled down. They explained at the time that they didn&#8217;t &#8220;have data&#8221; for the performance above about 120 degrees. Lift, baggage weight, equipment temps, and not to mention the poor guys loading my wife&#8217;s bags, each with a &#8220;Heavy&#8221; sticker, onto the plane. As with everything you do, it makes sense when you explain it.</p>
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		By: RevZafod		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403144</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 02:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[About 20 years ago on a SCUBA trip from DFW to La Paz BCS, we had to change planes in Mexico City because the baggage overloaded the plane on a hot summer day in early afternoon.  We sat at the gate for about 90 minutes while a bunch of it was offloaded, including our dive gear.  It was delivered to our hotel around midnight, when it was shipped in on a later, cooler flight.

In 1964 when I was in the 101st Airborne our artillery battalion and the rest of the division were in the Mojave desert on Exercise Desert Strike.  An NCO and personal friend had the job of being an air observer in a single engine plane, piloted by someone who had graduated from the Army Aviation School about two weeks before.  On takeoff in the high desert, the pilot didn&#039;t notice the runway tilting slightly uphill, and the plane crashed, killing both of them.  RIP, Sergeant Delton Teeter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 20 years ago on a SCUBA trip from DFW to La Paz BCS, we had to change planes in Mexico City because the baggage overloaded the plane on a hot summer day in early afternoon.  We sat at the gate for about 90 minutes while a bunch of it was offloaded, including our dive gear.  It was delivered to our hotel around midnight, when it was shipped in on a later, cooler flight.</p>
<p>In 1964 when I was in the 101st Airborne our artillery battalion and the rest of the division were in the Mojave desert on Exercise Desert Strike.  An NCO and personal friend had the job of being an air observer in a single engine plane, piloted by someone who had graduated from the Army Aviation School about two weeks before.  On takeoff in the high desert, the pilot didn&#8217;t notice the runway tilting slightly uphill, and the plane crashed, killing both of them.  RIP, Sergeant Delton Teeter.</p>
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		By: Sally		</title>
		<link>https://askthepilot.com/feeling-the-heat/#comment-403142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 23:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, agree with Ian -- so good to see an acknowledgement of the working conditions on the tarmac!  Intense heat kills quickly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, agree with Ian &#8212; so good to see an acknowledgement of the working conditions on the tarmac!  Intense heat kills quickly.</p>
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